The W124 Mercedes 500E was the world's most perfect sedan | Revelations with Jason Cammisa | Ep. 05

  • Julkaistu 23 päivää sitten

    Hagerty

    kesto: 14:23

    There are a lot of misconceptions about the Porsche-built W124 Mercedes 500E, and Jason explains why the 500E and E500 was NOT a Porsche sports sedan with a Mercedes badge. First off, there's not a single Porsche part on the car.
    Porsche Engineering Services helped with reengineering the W124's engine compartment to fit in the 32-valve, 4-cam M119 V-8 - for both the 400E and the 500E.
    But the 500E doesn't use the same V-8 as the 500SL. It needed shorter connecting rods so that it fit in the same physical space as the 4.2-liter 400E - this way only one structural variant needed to be produced.
    The 400E was a response to the Lexus LS400. Why do you think it wasn't called a 420E?
    Porsche also did the engineering to bolt up wheels, tires, brakes, and suspension components from the wider and heavier R129 500SL and W124 500SEL. That necessitated fender flares so wide that the 500E didn't fit down the regular W124 production line in Sindelfingen.
    For both models, Porsche performed the physical modifications to Mercedes-built W124 chassis, and sent them back to Sindelfingen for paint. The 400E remained there, but because of its width, the 500E was sent back to Porsche, which assembled the 500E at a second Zuffenhausen factory.
    With Bruno Sacco's revolutionary looks, aerodynamics, obsession with safety, and Mercedes build quality and engineering might, the W124 was certainly among the best (and most expensive) sedans in the world.
    Still is. It's close to perfect. But it's not a Porsche Sports Sedan.
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Al Ameri
Al Ameri

I remember my childhood time (1982), it was the best and most expensive car was 500 SEL and then came 560 SEL

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Ice Blue
Ice Blue

It's so heavy that it feels good to use in a bumpy road.

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Michael Orekyeh
Michael Orekyeh

Also known as "The Factory Hammer"

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HAPPIIEEE
HAPPIIEEE

Subscribed....

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mattyjbsr
mattyjbsr

Do you have any photos of the 500E and 993 together? That is the absolute perfect pair in existence, and I’d love to have that as a wallpaper

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Alex P.
Alex P.

...and also , the world's ugliest sedan. Mercedes aesthetics suck..even today.

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Burhan Budak
Burhan Budak

It's more of a dictator/crime leader car.

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SotosM3 E30
SotosM3 E30

*laughs in M5*

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lqr824
lqr824

12:00 best designed, engineered, blah blah, sedan of all time? May I humbly present... BMW's E39 ('96-'03 5-series). I recall the auto journalists, commiserating with Mercedes after the E39 launch: "it must sting that, every time you release a model that gets a step ahead of the BMW, they come out with a new model that not so much moves the goal posts as literally hurls them over the horizon." My M5 is 21 years old now and I'm still waiting for a car of such beauty, performance, sound, interior, and quality to replace it with. Succeeding 5-series generations have been to big, the 3-series still seem down-market, and nothing is as beautiful.

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Christopher Charles
Christopher Charles

E28 review please? Frm Malaysia

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lqr824
lqr824

6:50 332HP from 5 liters? The E39 M5 got 400HP from that displacement, and could be increased to 500HP with kits. Anyone know if similar were available for this 500E?

10 tuntia sitten
Sabyasachi Ghosh
Sabyasachi Ghosh

So what I understood is that if you have problems, run to Porsche

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lqr824
lqr824

3:10 the arm did NOT remain parallel to the airflow throughout its sweep. What the heck are you saying this and why are you saying it? The picture fully contradicts you.

11 tuntia sitten
Hans Wurst
Hans Wurst

The W124 was also called "Deutscher Panzer" (German Tank) because it never breaks. Our W124 which we had was the most reliable ever since today. Our Family also worked at Mercedes 3 generations. But what came at the 2000s was just an engineering shame.

11 tuntia sitten
felsner1
felsner1

Wish you wouldn't say "Portia" about "Porsche."

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Sloppy Turtle
Sloppy Turtle

European JUNK. Over priced, difficult to repair, expensive parts, pointlessly expensive to buy, not reliable, outdated, terrible resale value, petroleum based. NEVER buy european vehicles !...... or crystler for that matter. JUNK !

14 tuntia sitten
Em Are
Em Are

I always wanted to buy this car, the diesel one....and now I most likely will....God willing

17 tuntia sitten
Guillermo Carrillo
Guillermo Carrillo

This dude reminds me of Adam Sandler. Good review btw and what a beautiful Benz. Coming from a bmw owner n54 engine twin turbo! I might need a Benz on my bucket list.

19 tuntia sitten
Hamza Sadkaoui
Hamza Sadkaoui

This is Why Mercedes is my favorite car And for me to want that old car as my car right now in 2021 speaks volumes of this mammoth of a tycoon

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Colorado Cool Kid
Colorado Cool Kid

Needs daytons

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MarcoNoPolo
MarcoNoPolo

11:49 Bro. Did you pee your pants or is that something else?

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Ather Zaidi
Ather Zaidi

The class of time, revolution succeed. Hats off for this video.

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turkeypaz
turkeypaz

Good god this popped up and it is amazing quality made better due to nostalgia. But aside from that, this is on the level of, but more chill than top gear. I am not a car person but wow....

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Pepperoni Pete
Pepperoni Pete

It was a real pleasure to watch your video, beautifully done!! I am honored to say I got to drive my friends 1993 500E about 12 years ago in Ohio. It was solid, fast and tight. Although primitive in this day and age, the dashboard was simplistic and easy to operate which I loved. An experience I'll never forget.

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Simon Fowler
Simon Fowler

GREAT video and explanation thanks and what a car!!!!

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Peteri Davies
Peteri Davies

Does this one have the famous emission defeating devices fitted as standard or an optional extra...? Will rebates and or parts still be available when the EU finally collapses...? Personally, I think a Lexus or Toyota for me... Reliable and longevity built in, unsurpassed Japanese quality.

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David White
David White

there is one sitting in the driveway next to my house for at least the pass 10 years. It breaks my heart every day as i have to walk pass it. Owner doesn't to sell!!!!!

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Ali Raza
Ali Raza

Think if Mercedes today refurbish this car with the newer tech 🤯

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Sersou
Sersou

I'm stunned by the production quality of this video. Here ... Take my sub.

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Albin111
Albin111

best sedan in the world and then booooooooommm bmw comes with the e39 m5

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André Catani
André Catani

So sad that sedans are vanishing today, giving place to all those ugly and stupid SUVs...

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Matt's Garage
Matt's Garage

I would 100% agree if I didn’t own the coupe version... Really such a great looking car from every angle!

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Trey Scudder
Trey Scudder

Loved my 1990 300E.... great car. The giant V8 in the 500 looks like a complete bear to work on.

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Jason Goweser
Jason Goweser

Nice video, thanks. I, myself, drive W124 3.2 Sportline 1995.

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Clayton Bridges
Clayton Bridges

*cough* LS400 *cough*

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Ozi Yılmaz
Ozi Yılmaz

Well you say "500E over cornered M cars" dear Jason, I watched Keiichi Tsuchiya (a.k.a DK) killed 500E with a 3.8 E34 M5 on the track. I agree W124 is a legendary car which 500E is even more legendary but E34 M5 is a better "sports car".

2 päivää sitten
Simon Ardfors
Simon Ardfors

That grain filter on all the old footage looks really bad

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J Mills
J Mills

Jason, this is content you were born to create. Poor man’s Ryan Reynolds anyone? + as an enthusiast who came of age in the 90’s this car remains a pinnacle and I will boot myself for not buying one for 20k with 40000 miles

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ghetto journalist tv
ghetto journalist tv

lovely driving this masterpiece

2 päivää sitten
Edward Kokol
Edward Kokol

I worked at a Mercedes Benz dealership for over 19 years (starting in 1988). The500E was an awesome car and fun to drive. The video says no Porsche parts, but I remember standing at the parts counter as they ordered transmission parts from Porsche for a 500E. My friend who still works there had one. He always floored it when we went to lunch. Good times.

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alan Qtrmaine
alan Qtrmaine

Gave the thumbs up just for the title

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xnreyescj
xnreyescj

Thank you Mercedes-Benz for lobbying ($$$) U.S. congress in '88 and passing the Vehicle Safety Compliance Act.

2 päivää sitten
Ghoosh Wen
Ghoosh Wen

I love boxy car design

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Andy Hills
Andy Hills

Two words Vauxhalls lotus carlton.

2 päivää sitten
Terence Cheng
Terence Cheng

Perfect in the making, also for your mechanic

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Cesar Abraham
Cesar Abraham

My Dad had the 300E 1986, He bought it brand new , This car is indeed the perfect 4 door sedan, built like a tank, straight 6 engine, german engineering at it's finest, very comfortable ride, My dad donated the car in 2015 with 267K miles . Lots of memories

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dbernstein85
dbernstein85

Haha silly video everyone knows the e38 was the greatest sedan

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Tony Curtis Blondell
Tony Curtis Blondell

Best car video, lol

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Simon F
Simon F

Cute dressing gown.

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Mohammad Al Fattal
Mohammad Al Fattal

Mercedes was the best by miles and miles ahead of anyone Now you can argue about it being still the best, but barely

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Gene Smith
Gene Smith

GO to the source- Buy a PORSCHE.

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Siddhesh Mhatre
Siddhesh Mhatre

Great film. 400E and 500E are still gorgeous even today.

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NUMENORLU DEMİRCİ
NUMENORLU DEMİRCİ

Very good video

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no taboos
no taboos

No airbags. Instantly obsolete.

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LoneWolfSigma
LoneWolfSigma

Mercedes today..Bring your wallet for repairs. Lexus reliability is far superior than Mercedes. If you love having your wallet raped. to FIT IN with the 1%....buy Mercedes and BMWs....and that is just for them to scan your vehicle with their special scan tools.

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Pistonburner
Pistonburner

Perfect? That old automatic transmission alone makes it totally impossible.

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Sgt. Tom
Sgt. Tom

It came up on the right side as proposition. Man ow man, it was so good that i just clicked full screen mode, sat back and watched to the last second. It reminded me of good old times of holy trinity, the top gear. Hats off.

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marshalllucky
marshalllucky

what if you got a popped tire? what then?

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AeRoTR
AeRoTR

I could not stop watching, very good job !

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josava1
josava1

It’s Right up there with the GOAT - Lexus Ls400

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Tim Tv Please
Tim Tv Please

Very enjoyable video. Glad it came out of no where to Me. Feeling confident sitting in my Sprinter!

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Parvez A K Khan
Parvez A K Khan

My all time favourite W123 and W124

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bozukbeyin
bozukbeyin

This is great content man! Thank you.

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Michael Davidson
Michael Davidson

Can the mexican presenting the video wear normal clothes and quit the classical music

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Math is not for the faint of heart
Math is not for the faint of heart

And then Lexus came with the LS400. Boy, were they upset at MB, Audi and BMW. But I do admit that the Kathedral (W140) demands respect

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Cora Harrison
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Liz House
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Tom Cunningham
Tom Cunningham

He looks like Jimmy kimmel

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C S
C S

Was...

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Patriotic Indus
Patriotic Indus

HAGERTY is the best channel on YouTube

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Mark Lydon
Mark Lydon

An Italian obsessed with safety????? That must have been a one off.

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sexphisto
sexphisto

nope.

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gRosh08
gRosh08

Well Done Hagerty!

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Khanya Luthando Ngobo
Khanya Luthando Ngobo

I don't dispute its a great car, but really Mercedes fan boys.. You have to give credit where it's due, Porsche designed and engineered the engine and portions of the body, only Porsche and Audi has the most Le Mans wins, this engine won the PE Mans because it's a Porsche engineered engine not Mercedes. Between Merc, Audi and BMW.. Audi will forever have the better engines. Though this is an impeccable car but give credit where it's due honesty won't kill

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Al Ks Mercedes
Al Ks Mercedes

You don’t know it in till you try it

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Norse Viking Æsir
Norse Viking Æsir

Too bad the driving footage was shite, rigid mount the camera next time so people can appreciate body roll, etc..

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nestoavila
nestoavila

Lol Derek Tamhyphen Scott lol

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Norse Viking Æsir
Norse Viking Æsir

I want to see it in an actual wind tunnel and come up with that coefficient of drag.

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mercedesbenzformula1
mercedesbenzformula1

One of my favorite cars ever!

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Hemo A.H.
Hemo A.H.

drove the w124 300e for college. Brilliant and still holds up but be prepared for insane bills.

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Geri
Geri

I have a w124 250D and all i can say is the more i try other new cars the more im convinced of what masterpiece they have built.

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Wefixanything
Wefixanything

Next one is BMW e60..

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Q
Q

I had one. Yes the best ever built.

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Peter Forte
Peter Forte

I want!!!

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Shrek Wazowski
Shrek Wazowski

"Porsha"

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zoomer46 zoomer46
zoomer46 zoomer46

to be honest when i drove an 500e w124 i thought it felt a bit slow, later on i got a s210 e55 which felt way faster, 500e an over hyped saloon in my opinion.

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JD Mosley
JD Mosley

You spelled "WRX STi" wrong.

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Nick Adams
Nick Adams

The host is such annoying a hole

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joesaric1
joesaric1

But whyyyyyyyy again ??

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Surfman
Surfman

Ls400 is better tho.

4 päivää sitten
PGC
PGC

I own a showroom 1990 300ce24V: a 3.0 litre six straight engine providing some lovely and smooth 232 HP with catalytic converter: it was around the time when in the US most of the V8 5 litres were giving some 140 HP at their best. Is that correct? All the stuff, accessories and amenities you are enthusiast about in this car, were standard in mine too. No miracle just for your 500E but "standard fitting" for any top of class models of the period.

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Antonio Bonvecchio
Antonio Bonvecchio

datti na calmata che è una merda di auto come le altre

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Live Life
Live Life

It is a MercySadie. Mercy Sadie, the darn thing wont start again. I can still hear father to this day.

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Ben Bond
Ben Bond

And then, as has probably already been mentioned, there was the beastly W124 V12.

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Matt Hunter
Matt Hunter

2003 E46 328i ZLP sport package is best sedan ever

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CCOCCARO
CCOCCARO

Jason...why no love for the W124 M119 4.2L? Those cars didn't have the short gearing so they were capable of being faster, if not quicker. While I don't dare drive my 27 year old '94 E420 like you did the 500, it still delivers the goods. Two wishes: Mercedes-Benz would offer more support for the OBD I cars and a glove box. MBNA spun the barrel reducing the W124 price by $10K in 1993 to chase Lexus wisely. I doubt the accountants would let that kind of currency hedge happen today.

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Emerson Galvao
Emerson Galvao

My grandfather bought this car in Toronto Ontario sent it across the sea and now sits in his house in Portugal. It's a s*** engine it can barely make up a hill he has a diesel

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Beinjar
Beinjar

Hehe finally found him 😀😊😊 J C. Subscribed!!!!

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Ty Kit
Ty Kit

Is this the car for the nurburgring lap in granturismo 4?

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4390100
4390100

We had a Diesel version and it lasted until 500,000 kilos with no big maintenance bills, never had one here that lasted that long, even the Toyota's here don't get over 350,000 and that last one is usually the longer lasting one.

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William Adams
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Property does not have rights. People have rights. The right to enjoy property without unlawful deprivation.

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@ben kelley Ikr, every first letter being capitalized, actual punctuation, all the replies being within the same day. Could they make it any less obvious?

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Bitcoin is obviously the new digital gold.

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